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#1 ShadowThunder77

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 05:14 AM

any major changes happen to ECM yet??

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 05:23 AM

anyone??

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 05:41 AM

No, it's still game-breakingly out of proportion.

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 05:49 AM

is me playing alot less because of ECM?? :P <_< ;)

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 05:51 AM

View PostShadowThunder77, on 13 January 2013 - 05:49 AM, said:

is me playing alot less because of ECM?? <_< ;) :huh:



I recommend you get yourself one of these and ride the ECM snake :P

http://mwomercs.com/...ech-hands-down/

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 05:55 AM

should i get a commando 2D or a raven 3L then?? :P

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 05:58 AM

View PostShadowThunder77, on 13 January 2013 - 05:55 AM, said:

should i get a commando 2D or a raven 3L then?? :P


I advocate the Craven 3L - it has 1 less SSRM launcher but due to the much heavier armor and 3x more med lasers it can usually take apart a Trollmando 1 on 1. Trollmands are still dangerous to you so you should prioritize them as targets.

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 06:02 AM

where did the varity and tactics go?? :P <_<

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 06:06 AM

View PostShadowThunder77, on 13 January 2013 - 06:02 AM, said:

where did the varity and tactics go?? :P <_<


We circled strafed them down using ECM+Lag shielded Cravens

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 06:08 AM

View PostShadowThunder77, on 13 January 2013 - 06:02 AM, said:

where did the varity and tactics go?? :P <_<


>implying sad LRMboat who can't mouse one always now.

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 06:09 AM

Imho:
If you have friends play the 2D bcs you have SSRM superiority through ECM superiority (Two 2D cann kill one 3L in ~15 seconds) but without ECM superiority you gimp yourself.

For Solo-Pugging the 3L is better bcs you can take more beating and have up to 3 Lasers.

You could also use the Cicada 3M which has no SSRM but will deny the enemy PUG another Light Mech (which means less likehood to run into a 4-man ECM 2D/3L group) though you have a very hard time to kill Lights without SSRM - Mediums to Assaults be no problem for a Cicada.

Its up to you!

Edited by Thorqemada, 13 January 2013 - 07:13 AM.


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Posted 13 January 2013 - 06:12 AM

View PostThorqemada, on 13 January 2013 - 06:09 AM, said:

Imho:
If you have friends play the 2D bcs you have SSRM superiority through ECM superiority.
For Solo-Pugging the 3L is better bcs you can take more beating.
You could also use the Cicada 3M which has no SSRM but will deny the enemy PUG another Light mech though you have a very hard time to kill Lights without SSRM - Mediums to Heavys be no problem for a Cicada.

Its up to you!


I've been practising with my Cicada-3M the last few days and I find it much less powerful than the Craven 3L. Ideally fast mediums would be the predators of lights but currently it usually goes the other way, lol.

Also the hitboxes on the Cicada seem to be just big enough for folks to reliably hit me, whereas the Craven just glides on by.

Either way you go - be sure to practice your piloting so you don't run into enemy/allied mechs. Right now light pilots get a free ride, but the dragon bowling league will return some day.

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 06:25 AM

so dont give up on playing just yet??

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 06:27 AM

View PostShadowThunder77, on 13 January 2013 - 06:25 AM, said:

so dont give up on playing just yet??


I would give up.

Hell I havent played more than 20 games since the introduction of ECM, and those games were to test the system and patches

#15 ShadowThunder77

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 06:32 AM

so ECM is the reason im playing less??

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 06:37 AM

nah, just wait untill the raven pack has chosen an atlas of choice to dismantle and then once they are in on the assault go and get em, it fun .... trust me :P

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 06:47 AM

should i wait till after the upcomming update before i decide wether or not to stay??

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 06:50 AM

ECM isnt the problem. Its the damn ravens carrying it, that you cant hit, that is the problem.

Addressing Ravens, and their abuse in this state of netcode disrepair, is imporant and relevant to the otherwise valid op of this thread.

My solution would be to suggest we approach this issue in a different way. Obviously, Ravens are a problem for most mechs. I think waht we need are mechs, to deal with ravens by brawling them down. I have drawn up some concepts, feel free to take a look.

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This is the RAPTOR-1X light mech. Designed to keep fire on ravens with their arm mounted ultra-ac5, as they close in to finish the job with an array of small lasers. The RAPTOR saw service following the clan invasion, serving as a back-bone for inner sphere forces. The Raptor was also a favored mech in the Solaris Arena, due to its firepower and mobility. Raptors can use a JJ ability without equipping jump jets, because theyre raptors after all, and raptors can jump pretty high.

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This is the CERATOPS-2XL. The advantage of the CERATOPS is the incredible tonnage capacity. Inner Sphere pilots are know to load CERATOPS up with a combination of large single shot ballistics or lasers. The extra tonnage is spent on cooling, which allows the ERPPC's and AC/10s to fire liberally. CERATOPS were outfitted with command consoles, because god knows they had no prior use. The CERATPOS became a Fladship among the forces repelling the clans. A CERATOPS is usually found behind its accompanying RAPTOR-1X's, taking frequent heavy damage shots at Raven legs. A Raven unfortunate enough to be legged by a CERATOPS-2XL will likely be skewered moments later by the three melee weapons attached to the CERATOPS frontal head section.

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And finally we have "Mecha-Rex". This model, the MECHA-R3X, is a Raven's worst nightmare. The upper arms were reduced in size and weight to allocate maximum tonnage to weapons. The idea is, do as much damage as possible while closing range. The MECHA-R3X was designed much later than the other 2 models. The bodyshape was inspired by the discovery of alien life in the battle-tech universe. It was disigned after a race of bird like aliens mech pilots had faced on the dark and dangerous edges of known space. This model comes equipped with 2 ac/2s for component damage, 6 ER-PPCs, and a flamethrower for close range dps. The PPC's are bundled into a single focused energy beam mounted on the center back torso. An important tip for new mech pilots learning to drive the MECHA-R3X is to avoid legging Raven mechs as they close in for the kill. The biggest drawback of the R3X model is that it's ability to stay locked onto targets is contingent upon the target remining in motion.

So here we go. 3 sweet new mechs, cannon included. We can ship these out fast, and it will give frustrated pilots a answer to the nightmare that is ..... the ecm raven.

Edited by SlXSlXSlX, 13 January 2013 - 06:51 AM.


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Posted 13 January 2013 - 06:50 AM

View PostShadowThunder77, on 13 January 2013 - 06:47 AM, said:

should i wait till after the upcomming update before i decide wether or not to stay??


Give up. There's no hope. It's all ruined forever by the ECM menace.

Might as well go play mechwarrior tactics.

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 07:05 AM

any advice on wether to stay or quit?? :P





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